Equipment Options for FiOS TV

With all the equipment options for FiOS TV, choosing the right ones can be daunting. I’ve decided to really evaluate all the options, so that your decision is easier.

What equipment works with FiOS?

Due to the complicated nature of FiOS TV (a hybrid service combining QAM and IP technologies) there are a few different levels of service possible depending on the equipment.

  1. Standard TV: Previously any old TV could tune into the local channels over FiOS without any set top box. This is because the local channels were simulcast in analog format. However this feature has been phased out and is no longer available.
  2. TV or other device that has a built-in digital QAM Tuner: Can pick up all available local broadcast channels in both standard definition and high definition. This is essentially the same channel set that was previously simulcast in analog. No set top box is required.
  3. Cable Card: They are available from Verizon for $3.99 per month. They can be used in any device that has a cable card slot and is Digital Cable Ready. A cable card will give you access to all subscribed channels, both standard definition and high definition, but does not include any interactive features such as the Interactive Media Guide, Video on Demand, Games, or Widgets. Cable card ready devices include many new TVs and TiVO equipment (more on that below).
  4. Digital Adapter (Motorola DCT 700): This is essentially a miniature set top box with similar functionality as the cable card. It can connect to any TV and tune into any subscribed channel that is not high definition, but it does not support interactive features such as the Interactive Media Guide, Video on Demand, Games, or Widgets. It is available for lease from Verizon for $3.99 per month.
  5. Set Top Box: The set top boxed can connect to most TVs, and include access to the Interactive Media Guide, Video on Demand, Games, or Widgets. Verizon set top boxes are hybrid models manufactured by Motorola. They can access all subscribed channels through QAM and all interactive features through IP technology. IP is not a standard for digital cable devices. This is why normal cable cards cannot access the interactive features.

Set Top Boxes

Standard Definition Set Top Box: Currently this is the Motorola QIP 2500-3. It can tune into all subscribed standard definition channels. It has a RF out, S-video out, and composite video out for connection to any television. It has stereo RCA outs along with digital audio coax out and digital audio optical out. When using the digital audio out, it is Dolby Digital capable. This set top box is available for lease at $5.99 per month.

High Definition Set Top Box: Currently this is the Motorola QIP 7100. It can tune into all subscribed channels, SD and HD. It has the same connections as the 2500 plus a component video out, and an HDMI output for connection to an HDTV. It is available for lease at $9.99 per month.

DVR Set Top Box: Currently this is the Motorola QIP 7216. It has two tuners that can view and record SD and HD. It can record up to two shows simultaneously while another recorded show is being viewed. It has a 160 GB hard drive which can store up to 80 hours of SD content and/or 20 hours of HD content. It can pause and rewind live TV (up to 1 hour buffer). It has the same connections as the 7100, with the exception of the RF out. Particularly the 7216-2 does not have the RF out while the 7216-1 does. Both models are in circulation, so if you want the DVR set top box for an old non-hd television, you should request the 7216-1.

Previously there was the QIP 6416. The 7216 is the newer version. It adds MPEG4 capability (for future programming), an FCC-mandated two-way cable card slot for future compatibility, and 7.1 Dolby Digital. The QIP 7216 is available for least at $15.99 per month.

Home Media DVR: This set top box is actually just the QIP 7216 DVR set top box with additional features programmed. A regular QIP 7216 DVR can be upgraded at any time by calling Verizon or enabling Home Media DVR features through the Interactive Media Guide.

The Home Media DVR adds the capability to watch recorded SD shows on any standard set top box (QIP 2500) in the house or recorded HD shows on any high definition set top box (QIP 7100) in the house. Up to six SD/HD set top boxes can interact with one Home Media DVR. Up to three recorded shows can be watched on different set top boxes simultaneously.

The Home Media DVR can also includes the PC Media Manager, which allows you to view slide shows and listen to music stored on your computer on your television. The Home Media DVR features add $4 per month on top of the regular DVR lease fees, bringing the total lease cost for a Home Media DVR to $19.99 per month.

Alternatives

Unfortunately there is currently no purchase options for Verizon FiOS equipment. All their set top boxes and cable cards are available for lease only. Some devices may appear on Ebay from time to time, but these will not stay activated for long. If you can live without the interactive features, then the cable card gives you a lot of equipment options. Of course you still have to lease the cable card from Verizon. Since its cheaper than any of the set top boxes, this may be a good option for many.

The most popular use of the FiOS cable card is for TiVO equipment. A lot of people are already used to their beloved TiVO and would rather not switch to Verizon’s set top boxes. Even new customers
can consider TiVO equipment for FiOS. In this case you CAN purchase the equipment. The downside is that you’ll also need a TiVO subscription which is $12.95 per month or $399 for a lifetime. When you add up the cost of the equipment, the TiVO subscription, and the cable card lease fee, TiVO actually ends up costing more than any of the set top boxes available from Verizon. Even still, many people prefer the TiVO interface and capabilities of the TiVO equipment.

The cable card will not give you access to the interactive media guide, but the TiVO service will provide its own media guide and features. It’s important to note that there are two different types of cable cards in circulation. For a TiVO DVR to record two shows simultaneously (like the FiOS DVR), it may need two cable cards. The original cable cards available from Verizon are S-Cards (single-stream), and two of this type of card is needed. Some areas are getting the new M-Cards (multi-stream). Since these have dual tuners built-in, it eliminates the need for a second card and saves you $3.99 per month.

While TiVO equipment will not allow access to Video on Demand programming, it does have a few notable advantages over the Verizon set top boxes:

  • ability to add an external hard drive or upgrade the internal hard drive for increased recording capacity
  • ability to auto record programs based on a set of criteria
  • ability to download recordings to a computer
  • access to Amazon Video on Demand service
  • access to Netflix Watch Instantly (with Netflix subscription)

In Review

So if you want to watch more than your local channels, you will need to lease equipment from Verizon. And you do need a piece of equipment for every TV that you want to watch more than just local channels on. Luckily this equipment provides access to a great service with tons of channels!

Device Monthly Fee Local Channels Subscribed Channels Interactive Features
TV with Digital QAM Tuner $0.00 Yes (SD/HD) No No
Cable Card $3.99 Yes (SD/HD) Yes (SD/HD) No
Digital Adapter (DCT700) $3.99 Yes (SD only) Yes (SD only) No
SD Receiver (QIP2500) $5.99 Yes (SD only) Yes (SD only) Yes (SD only)
HD Receiver (QIP7100) $9.99 Yes (SD/HD) Yes (SD/HD) Yes (SD/HD)
DVR (QIP7216) $15.99 Yes (SD/HD) Yes (SD/HD) Yes (SD/HD)
Home Media DVR (QIP7216) $19.99 Yes (SD/HD) Yes (SD/HD) Yes (SD/HD)

Comments

1  

Pete Lauritzen

December 7, 2008 @ 3:24 pm

Thanks FIOS information. I had been trying to scour the Verizon site for the fee structure on their devices, with no luck. I appreciate the help

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Steve Fink

December 22, 2008 @ 1:22 pm

Very nice summation, thanks Pete!

I wish my TIVO-like (Magnavox 160 GB HD) DVR had a Cable card slot but I don’t think it does, I’ll have to check when I get home this evening.

Currently, I can only record by tuning my DVR to channel 3 and turning the Verizon standard STB to whatever channell I wish to record on. That works fine until I wantt to record different stations back to back while I’m away.

I’m looking into an IR blaster solution but I don’t think that will work either since my PC is no where near the TV I wish to communicate with.

Steve

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Jeff Price

January 17, 2009 @ 11:04 pm

Is there a way to watch and record programing on my computer using a Verizon leased cable card with a TV tuner in my computer (such as a VisionTek All-In-Wonder HD by ATI0?

I have both FiOS and the All-In-Wonder HD, but can’t seem to get a signal on my computer. I’m running Windows Vista 64 bit operating system which as TV viewing built into its Media Center software.

Thanks.

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Craig

January 28, 2009 @ 4:43 pm

If you bought one of their STB’s around town, could you then use a cablecard to get their channels?

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Vince

February 13, 2009 @ 10:50 am

We got a cable card from Verizon in 2006 but it would not work with the HD channels, only standard channels. Our whole goal of switching to FIOS was to eliminate the cable box because our LG tv has a build in dvr that is much nicer than verizon’s.
Does anyone know if their cable cards now support hd?

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tech_ceo

March 3, 2009 @ 5:54 pm

Craig, the answer to your question is yes that would work. However if you are only replacing a standard definition box (eg 2500) it may not save you much, since the monthly cable card cost ($3.99) is only $1 less than what Verizon charges for the SD STB. On the other hand, if you are replacing a rented HD stb or DVR, you could save $9 or $19 per month. Just be sure to take into consideration the loss of interactive features such as the program guide.

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tech_ceo

March 3, 2009 @ 5:55 pm

Vince, yes they do. Get a new card from Verizon.

8  

Joe

March 11, 2009 @ 8:35 am

I have a small undermount cabinet tv in the kitchen that I don’t want or need a Fios box. The cable is still hooked up the same way I had it with Cablevision. But it now runs to the Fios splitter. I just get “snow” on the tv, is that because the tv does not have a QAM? What is a QAM? I just want local channels. Do I have to pay $ 3.99/month

9  

Cottager

March 11, 2009 @ 5:04 pm

Currently, every day I have to power off the QIP 6416 and power on to get a picture. Is this a known problem with this model?

10  

James

March 16, 2009 @ 6:21 pm

I have 9 TV’s throughout the house. I have a HUB in the basement that feeds CAT 5 and Coax to every room. Is it possible to have a “shared” set top box that could be utilized via the HUB for the rooms/tv’s that aren’t used that often, understanding only one TV could be using the box at a time or I guess they could both watch the same channel at once? I just don’t get why Verizon is forcing the rental of STB’s when that starts to make the ROI for switching from Cable erode away in rental fees per TV.

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Stan P.

March 20, 2009 @ 6:53 pm

I have aka Verizon/Fairpoint FIOS and plan so set up a conservative home theater with a Samsung PN50a650 plasma HDTV with built in internet capability. My service has been upgraded for HDTV and a Motorola TiVo DVR box has been installed anticipating the new set. I am getting only basic services and don’t like or want to upgrade. The TiVo is a bargain at $1 but the box is not at $15.99, Standard HDTV is fine and I plan to stream my movies from NetFlix and Amazon. I’d like to dump the Motorola box but have discovered that it has a “M” card built into it. What if I loose the box and have a cable card installed in the tv. The program guide is available on line.

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Vince

May 6, 2009 @ 10:53 am

I have DirecTV TiVo Series 1 right now and am going to be switching to Verizon FIOS. Some people tell me to buy a TiVo Series 3 HDDVR. I know I can add more space to the TiVo and the guide and features will be far better.

Are there any downsides to using a TiVo S3 vs Verizon multi-room HDDVR? I don’t care about the VOD.

Anyone using TiVo S3 with FIOS who used to use a Verizon DVR care to comment?

Thanks.

13  

Sandy

May 7, 2009 @ 3:21 am

I am interested in figuring out how to use a cablecard with Verizon Fios. I have a “Verizon” DVR Motorola 2708 given to me by a friend and have ordered the Fios service with one standard STB. I have 2 TVs, neither are HD. I am assuming this will work and that I will only pay the $5.99/mo. for the standard STB and the $3.99/mo for the cablecard, realizing I lose the PPV/On Demand features. Is this the way it works? Does anyone know if I have to request the cablecard prior to install or is that something the technician will have?

14  

Wramm

May 27, 2009 @ 6:54 pm

Joe,

The answer to your question is that you need either an external QAM tuner or one of those digital to analog converter boxes that you can get a government coupon for.

Newer TV’s have built in Digital Tuners

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Chuck Semich

June 1, 2009 @ 9:04 pm

Where is the IR detector on the Motorola QIP7100 box? I am trying to find where to place the adhesive end of my IR blaster so I can operate my Replay TV with the FIOS box.

16  

Paul

August 24, 2009 @ 4:39 pm

I currently have Comcast, but soon their network enhancements will force me to have some sort of converter or STB if I want to receive channels like HGTV or Food TV on my HDTVs.

I currently am exploring Verizon FIOS, but think I’m in the same boat. I don’t mind getting the equipment for most of my TV’s, but I have one wall mounted in the bathroom, which is obviously no place to be putting equipment on the counter tops. The TV doesn’t have a slot for a cable card, and I don’t want to mount a shelf on the wall to hold a STB.

The folks I’ve called at Comcast or Verizon didn’t really seem that knowledgeable, and I want to ensure I can get what I need before switching services. Thanks.

Are there any options you can think of? I won’t be getting any premium channels, but probably FIOS TV Extreme HD.

17  

Chip

September 22, 2009 @ 12:50 pm

New FIOS subscriber with three DVR’s, two SD STB’s and one Digital Converter. Just experienced the system changing which DVR is defined as the Media DVR. Where is that controlled and why would it change? Live support person ran remote diagnostics after saying we had too many DVR’s.

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Scott Lloyd

October 17, 2009 @ 12:30 am

I seem to have the “standard” configuration of most of the previous posts: A FIOS DVR and two media center boxes which can access shows recorded by the DVR. Is it possible to use the output from the media center box to connect to my video card to watch previously recorded programs, or even live TV? If not, what hardware would I need to do this or should I simply pay Verizon some more mouthy each month to get the appropriate computer card? After the computer is enabled to receive output from the media center box (or card) what software could I use (Movie Maker, photo shop elements, etc.) to capture what I am watching? When I had TIVO it had an option to stream programs to a VCR anything like that FIOS? Thanks.

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Melvin

October 18, 2009 @ 11:06 am

I have FIOS, and a HTPC (Home theater PC). The pc is equiped with dual tuner by aver Media see link:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815100015

from what I have gathered . If I purchase this SIIG card slot. Link:
http://www.siig.com/ViewProduct.aspx?pn=JJ-000072-S1

Then rent a tv card from Fios, I will be able to record some shows using Windows 7 OS,

will the above combination work? as I am still a little confused as to exactly what I would need to get fios into my pc.

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Melvin

October 18, 2009 @ 11:15 am

Dear paul ar post # 16. One option for not placing your STB in the bathroom is to invest in a RF (radio frequncy remote and IR blaster) that way you can mount your STB in a closet outside the bathroom and still full control of the STB.

21  

Melvin

October 18, 2009 @ 11:21 am

TO Jeff Price post ID #3. I am in the same baot my post id #19. If anyone can help.

22  

AJAY

November 21, 2009 @ 11:58 am

I’m trying to program my SONY remote to work Verizon Motorola Set Top Box.Where can I get programing codes for Motorola QIP 7100 set top box?

23  

Mike

December 3, 2009 @ 6:13 pm

I have a new Motorola STB HD/QIP 7100. When I plugged it in a code E610 comes on the display panel and then turns off. no power etc What does this mean? Thanks

24  

Huston

December 30, 2009 @ 12:06 pm

To Melvin: Did you get post 19 to work? If so how? I think in order to get FIOS into your PC you need a QAM tuner (your channels will be limited to the local channels and one or two others lilke the weather channel) and plug the fiber directly into the PC tuner. Or if you want to see all of the channels and interactive programing you will probably need a Verizon set top box and plug the SVIDEO out or HDMI out into your tuner.

I have a windows 7 laptop, and a wintv 850 tuner with usb adapter. I could not see any picture from the bare FIOS cable or from my SD or HD set top boxes. However I could get ATSC signals over the air with the attached antenna. I soon realized I need a QAM laptop tuner which is the wintv 950. From reading this excellent post however. I now think I just need a laptop tuner with an RF, S video or HDMI input, that way I should be able to see the decoded signals from the settop box on my labtop and to record same. I’ll let you know if it works.

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HBOStream

February 4, 2010 @ 2:58 am

The speed of FIOS Internet is far faster and more stable then cable modem or DSL.
The picture stability is better then TimeWarner Cable (less outages).

However, the experience is greatly diminished by Motorola’s set top box.
Where does one being.

1 – The play/pause rarely works when pressed. Hence, its a struggle to pause a program to go to the kitchen or bathroom.

2 – The hard drive is small and can not be user expanded. We have only about 10 hours of recording.

3 – Shows recorded on a DVR can be played on any set top box without a hard drive. But remote set top boxes in the house can not initiate a recording on the DVR. Any set top box should be able to access the record/playback capability of any other set top box in the house.

4 – When using HDMI the set top box goes to sleep when it no longer detects the TV. Hence, my SlingBox or Sony LocationFree box are not usable unless the TV is on.

5 – The component output, which I still use in half my HD TV sets, loses its signal very often. The HDMI output of the Motorola set top box is very unreliable.

6 – The menu system is terrible. The Internet programming capability also need to be reworked.

FIOS is a great advancement to home media/Internet delivery, but its marred by the Motorola set top box.

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michael

February 20, 2010 @ 7:11 pm

Great review of Verizon features and costs. Good job!

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Rick

February 25, 2010 @ 4:25 pm

two questions on the HDQIP 7100-1:
1: Can the 7100 be hooked up to a VGA port?
2: Has anyone, using an HDMI to DVI converter, expierenced the screen appearing for less then a second followed by no picture for 3-4 seconds, the screen appearing for less then a second followed by no picture for 3-4 seconds…??

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William

March 5, 2010 @ 6:25 pm

Re #27.

I have been through two of the Media Center DVR boxes. I got one on 90 day trial, and they exchanged it when they couldn’t get it to work. I never could get the HDMI/DVI to work other than as you described. Fourth call, the service rep came back and said “there’s a known issue with that box. Use the composite (3 wire) video.”

My projector doesn’t have them, so I can’t project HDMI. 5.1 sound sounds great on digital audio, though.

Three cable video is analog, HDMI/DVI is digital, similar quality I understand, but converting is a bit of a challenge, and not worth the investment.

90 days is almost up, so it goes back. I hope that a QIP 7100 will work with HDMI correctly.

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